When is the Resurrection from the Dead?

Paul indicated to the Thessalonian believers his main reason for addressing the resurrection and rapture. It was so they would not sorrow as those who had no hope. It is apparent the Thessalonians had a question about the resurrection that Paul was trying to answer. Their sorrowing had to do with those who had died. In his answer, Paul clarified the exact events surrounding the resurrection and rapture. While the question is not stated, we can reconstruct it from Paul’s answer. Notice his answer linked the timing of the resurrection to the catching up of the living saints. Therefore, their question most likely concerned the fact and timing of the resurrection of the dead in Christ. In answering their question, Paul assumed his readers were familiar with the Lord’s coming itself. He attached the timing of the resurrection of dead saints to an event they were already familiar with, the catching up of the living saints. 

1 Thessalonians 4:13-17

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.  

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 

Before Paul began to speak of the timing of the resurrection, he mentioned “the coming of the Lord” as though they were already familiar with this event. He took it for granted that they knew what the “coming of the Lord” was. Then he proceeded to link the timing of the resurrection of the dead saints to this already established event. 

  • 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
  • 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 

The blue type is the NEW information Paul was giving them. The red type the well known event to which he linked the new information. They were already familiar with the Lord’s descending from heaven, and the living believers being caught up in the clouds when the trumpet sounds. In this passage, Paul simply placed the resurrection of the dead saints in its proper place in the sequence of events. In essence, Paul did this by saying that the dead saints will rise just before we are “caught up.”

So, it is apparent that the Thessalonians were already familiar with Christ’s coming, and the “catching up” of the living believers. But, they were not sure where the resurrection of the dead saints fit in and this led to some sorrow among them.

How is it that they knew about the coming of Christ, and the catching up of the living saints, but did not understand where the resurrection fit in? It is because of their familiarity with the Olivet Discourse. In that passage, Jesus described His coming, and the gathering of the elect, but He did not specifically mention the resurrection of the dead, or how it would fit into the end time drama.  

Matthew 24:29-31

  • Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 
  • And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 
  • And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 

Paul’s words would, no doubt, bring to memory the words of Christ in the Olivet Discourse. Notice the similar language. Both mention the coming of the Lord. Both mention the sounding of the trumpet to gather His own. Both mention angelic participation. But when we look at Jesus’ words, we see that He did not mention the resurrection of the saints specifically in the Olivet Discourse. Based on these things, the Thessalonians’ question for Paul becomes apparent. They wanted to know what will happen to those who have previously died. Will they be raised to witness the revelation of Christ to the world in all His glory, and to participate in the establishment of Christ’s Kingdom? Or will they be raised at some other time? Or perhaps not at all? The fact that Jesus only spoke of the living, and did not place the resurrection in His sequence of events described in the Olivet Discourse, caused these Christians to worry about their departed brethren not participating in the spectacular events surrounding Christ’s revelation to the world in power and glory, and the setting up of His Kingdom. Paul’s answer indicates that this was indeed the problem. By linking the timing of the resurrection to the gathering of the living that Jesus spoke of, Paul completely resolved the problem for them and gave them reason for hope regarding their loved ones who had died. 

We see Paul’s reliance on Jesus’ Olivet Discourse. This fact forces us to draw two major conclusions.

  • Jesus’ Olivet Discourse concerns His Church
  • Paul did not teach a distinct “rapture.”

So, when Jesus comes from heaven with a shout and the trumpet of God sounds then the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then the saints that are alive when Jesus comes back will caught up (Raptured) together with the saints who were in the clouds already.

Copyright © Tim Warner

Revised September 11, 2007

5 thoughts on “When is the Resurrection from the Dead?

  1. Hi Raymond, I’ve heard for years the timing of the rapture, and it’s all good for conversation, the main thing in the Olivet Discourse or in 2 Thess. 2, both passages, ” let no one deceive you”, He is coming again, and we we need to be ready for His return, lastly…I’ve held for years the pre-tribulation rapture, however, after 30 plus years, I’m starting to believe in a pre-wrath ( see Rev. 6:9-12 and 2 Thess. 2:3-4 ) like stated earlier it’s for conversation, and encouragement, I believe we Christians in America, are about to go through some serious tribulation from godless leaders, thanks for the post, God Bless, Dave

    1. Hi Chatting About God,

      I think pre-wrath is the best interpretation of the Revelation text. I was taught pre-tribulation when I first got born again and did not think anything of it. I did know that there were any other teachings. Then I heard about Post-trib and looked at the scriptures and it was as plain as day. Also knowing God’s personality and how He works it made sense that the church would go through the Great Tribulation as a testimony and help. Us running way would not help them.
      The UK were I live is worse in many respects and we are expecting to be persecuted in the near future. We already cant preach out in public about sin without issues and arrest. A number of street preachers have been arrested. The UK atheist and Godless than the USA in my opinion. We have been tracking what is happening in your country and it has been moving in a very negative direction.

      Blessings Raymond

      1. Hi Raymond, thanks for your response, praying for you and the believers in the UK as you pray for us here in the U.S., to God be the glory, Dave

      2. Hi Dave,

        Do you know Joel Richardson from Joels Trumpet?

        He has come up with a hybrid model for the last 7 years called Pre-Wrath Post Tribulation and below is a PNG of what he sees it looks like.

        Thanks for you comments as I get very few.

        Raymond

      3. Raymond, your welcome. I believe everyday people do not want the truth, thank you for posting, also I’m not familiar with Joel Richardson, God Bless Raymond, Dave

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